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Jai Grieve  

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Spring

Journal Entry: Sun Mar 23, 2008, 2:53 AM
  • Listening to: L.A. Guns
  • Reading: The Smaller Majority by Piotr Naskrecki
  • Drinking: A cuppa tea


Spring is fast approaching , so I'm hoping to get some shots worth posting in the coming weeks.
Puffins are what I want to get some shots of in flight.
Also dragonflies in flight during the summer.
I'm also still looking for owls to photograph but still as yet have had no luck.

If anyone can help with locations of any of these (not including the dragonflies,) I'd appreciate it.

These are a view of my favourite things...

:iconcloseup-photography: :icontasteofliquid: :iconhdr-club:

:iconwildlifeuk: :iconnaturpics-club: :iconnature-club: :iconunframed-nature: :iconwildlifephotography: :iconnatureskyclub: :iconlovefins: :iconfungi-club: :iconnaturephotographer: :iconbirds-club: :iconzoo-photographers:

:iconscapes-club: :iconlandscape-club: :iconseaclub: :iconsky-club: :iconsunsets: :iconnight-shots:

:iconex-po-zure: :iconzenclub: :iconphoto-critique-club: :iconshutter-scene: :iconunseen-photographers: :iconphotographersclub: :iconvisualorgasmclub: :iconperspectate:

:iconeyes-of-infinity:

:iconmacrophoto: :iconmacro-beginners-club:






Hello business-people please read!

Every day, there are more and more business people seeking "artists" for everything from auto graphics to comic books to corporate logo designs.
More people are finding themselves in need of some form of illustrative service.

But what they're NOT doing, unfortunately, is realizing how rare someone with these particular talents can be.

To those who are "seeking artists", let me ask you;
How many people do you know, personally, with the talent and skill to perform the services you need? A dozen? Five? One? ...none?

More than likely, you don't know any. Otherwise, you wouldn't be posting on craigslist to find them.

And this is not really a surprise.

In this country, there are almost twice as many neurosurgeons as there are professional illustrators.
There are eleven times as many certified mechanics.
There are SEVENTY times as many people in the IT field.

So, given that they are less rare, and therefore less in demand, would it make sense to ask your mechanic to work on your car for free?
Would you look him in the eye, with a straight face, and tell him that his compensation would be the ability to have his work shown to others as you drive down the street?

Would you offer a neurosurgeon the "opportunity" to add your name to his resume as payment for removing that pesky tumor?
(Maybe you could offer him "a few bucks" for "materials". What a deal!)

Would you be able to seriously even CONSIDER offering your web hosting service the chance to have people see their work, by viewing your website, as their payment for hosting you?

If you answered "yes" to ANY of the above, you're obviously insane.

If you answered "no", then kudos to you for living in the real world.

But then tell me... why would you think it is okay to live out the same, delusional, ridiculous fantasy when seeking someone whose abilities are even less in supply than these folks?

Graphic artists, illustrators, painters, etc., are skilled tradesmen.
As such, to consider them as, or deal with them as, anything less than professionals fully deserving of your respect is both insulting and a bad reflection on you as a sane, reasonable person.
In short, it makes you look like a twit.

A few things you need to know;

1. It is not a "great opportunity" for an artist to have his work seen on your
car/'zine/website/bedroom wall, etc.
It IS a "great opportunity" for YOU to have their work there.

2. It is not clever to seek a "student" or "beginner" in an attempt to get
work for free. It's ignorant and insulting.
They may be "students", but that does not mean they don't deserve to be paid
for their hard work.
You were a "student" once, too. Would you have taken that job at McDonalds
with no pay, because you were learning essential job skills for the real
world?
Yes, your proposition it JUST as stupid.

3. The chance to have their name on something that is going to be seen by
other people, whether it's one or one million, is NOT a valid enticement.
Neither is the right to add that work to their "portfolio".
They get to do those things ANYWAY, after being paid as they should.
It's not compensation. It's their right, and it's a given.

4. Stop thinking that you're giving them some great chance to work.
Once they skip over your silly ad, as they should, the next ad is usually for
someone who lives in the real world, and as such, will pay them.
There are far more jobs needing these skills than there are people
who possess these skills.

5. Students DO need "experience". But they do NOT need to get it by giving
their work away. In fact, this does not even offer them the experience they
need. Anyone who will not/can not pay them is obviously the type of person or
business they should be ashamed to have on their resume anyway.
Do you think professional contractors list the "experience" they got
while nailing down a loose step at their grandmother's house when they were
seventeen?
If you your company or gig was worth listing as desired experience, it would
be able to pay for the services it received.
The only experience they will get doing free work for you is a lesson learned
in what kinds of scrubs they should not lower themselves to deal with.

6. (This one is FOR the artists out there, please pay attention.)
Some will ask you to "submit work for consideration". They may even be posing
as some sort of "contest".
These are almost always scams.
They will take the work submitted by many artists seeking to win the
"contest", or be "chosen" for the gig, and find what they like most.
They will then usually have someone who works for them, or someone who
works incredibly cheap because they have no originality or talent of
their own, reproduce that same work, or even just make slight modifications
to it, and claim it as their own.
You will NOT be paid, you will NOT win the contest.
The only people who win, here, are the underhanded folks who run these ads.
This is speculative, or "spec", work. It's risky at best, and a complete
scam at worst.
I urge you to avoid it, completely.
For more information on this subject, please visit [link].

So to artists/designers/illustrators looking for work, do everyone a favor, ESPECIALLY yourselves, and avoid people who do not intend to pay you. Whether they are "spec" gigs, or just some guy who wants a free mural on his living room walls. They need you. You do NOT need them.

And for those who are looking for someone to do work for free... please wake up and join the real world. The only thing you're accomplishing is to insult those with the skills you need. Get a clue.


Please copy and repost daily so that our profession may be respected.


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  • Current Age: XXXVII
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  • Interests: My little daughter, Jet-skiing; Motocross; Surfing; Computer, and little creatures
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Devious Comments

~zaporozhets:iconzaporozhets: 8 hours 16 minutes ago
You have Amazing Gallery!
~crayonstochaos:iconcrayonstochaos: 11 hours 57 minutes ago
Thank you for the add to your collection!!! :)
~texasghost:icontexasghost: 1 day 5 hours ago
Thank-you for adding "Out of the Fog" to your collections. I have taken a quick view of your gallery and you have some truly great images. I will return
~Urbex:iconUrbex: 1 day 20 hours ago
thank you for the :+fav: on Factory hallway [link]

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=grugster:icongrugster: 4 days 10 hours ago
Thanks for the recent :+fav:s ! I'm glad you like my photos. :hug:

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*markbarton:iconmarkbarton: 4 days 19 hours ago
thanks for the fav :D

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~JohnDoe6:iconJohnDoe6: 5 days 22 hours ago
Hey thanks for the fav

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~DuckOfDeath:iconDuckOfDeath: May 5, 2008, 10:05:35 PM
Hi! Thanks for the :+fav: on Green Glare :)

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*Cmac13:iconCmac13: May 3, 2008, 8:09:45 AM
:iconrudeboyskunkplz::iconrudeboyskunkplz2::iconrudeboyskunkplz3:
on my photograph
free as a ..
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~Urbex:iconUrbex: May 1, 2008, 4:37:11 AM
thank you so much for the :+fav: on Jerry Can [link]

Glad you liked it.

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*theperfectjez:icontheperfectjez: May 1, 2008, 3:52:27 AM
you have an amazing gallery :)

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*olearysfunphotos:iconolearysfunphotos: Apr 22, 2008, 12:05:14 AM Mood: Joy
Thank you for stopping by my gallery
=W0LLE:iconW0LLE: Apr 21, 2008, 11:56:27 AM
thx a lot 4 the :+fav: :)

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=DigitalDreamers:iconDigitalDreamers: Apr 8, 2008, 1:29:16 AM
Thank you very much for the recent :+fav:s, I really appreciate it! :hug:

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*Sikaris:iconSikaris: Apr 6, 2008, 3:20:35 AM
Hallo! :wave:
Thank you very much for the :+fav:! I appreciate it a lot.

Your gallery is very beautiful. I love to look at your photos. The ones of birds or insects in flight are amazing. :)

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*Kelly63:iconKelly63: Apr 4, 2008, 1:01:08 PM
Thank you so much for the :+fav: :handshake:
Your gallery is wonderful! :faint:

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~martinica:iconmartinica: Apr 4, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
thank you so much for your faves !

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~KatCoz:iconKatCoz: Apr 3, 2008, 4:19:27 PM Mood: Big Grin
thanks for the fave..great gallery!

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*Insect-Lovers-Club:iconInsect-Lovers-Club: Apr 2, 2008, 9:49:04 PM
Thank you so much for join us! you were added to the members list :)

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*livinginoblivion:iconlivinginoblivion: Mar 30, 2008, 6:37:01 PM
Thanks for the :+fav:'s and the :+devwatch: :)

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